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 Post subject: License restrictions
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 19:12 pm 
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Hi everyone. I wonder if any of you lovely people out there can help me with a problem?

I've not ridden a bike for ten years due to an injury to my right knee and other illnesses. Now I'm on the mend a feel that I'm fit and strong enough to start riding again. Both my car and bike license were restricted to automatics (any bike must also have a sidecar) but I would now like the restrictions on my bike licence removed. At the same time I wish to leave the automatic gearbox and push/pull hand controls restrictions in place on my car licence.

Does anyone know if the DVLA would agree to this? I rang them and got a vague reply about needing to sign a declaration?

Anybody who has experience of similar or can shed any light on this matter could you please enlighten me?

Many thanks, Dave. :D


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 22:32 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:39 am 
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What does DVLA say?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:58 am 
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When I rang the DVLA I was told that I would need to fill in a decleration stating I was fit to ride. She didn't say if there was a form to fill in (knowing them there probably is) or whether or not it would have to be signed by my G.P.

I thought I'd ask on here before I went wasting my G.P.s time. 8)


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:45 pm 
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I told Dvla when I had my wrist fused as the Consultant said it would be best to let them know.
I just sent a letter saying what had been done, highlighting my condition would not worsen etc, my general health being good etc.
I didn't get a letter from my GP or Consultant but it could only support your information if you were to get one.
DVLA were utter twats after they had my letter, they kept sending forms asking what "special" modifications or adaptations I needed to any vehicles I drove/rode etc.
It took a while of letters back and forth to make them accept I have a fused wrist but it doesn't affect my ability to drive or that I don't need any "special" adaptations.
The good thing was in the paperwork they kept sending me it asks what adaptations you need etc and what restrictions they may put on your licence if you need certain things.
Basically if you find a certain part from a different production model vehicle that you can buy off the shelf as a spare/replacement part suits your needs adequately it doesn't class as a "special" adaptation.
If I told them I had made a custom thumb throttle unit because I can't work a motorcycle twist throttle they would have put a restriction on my licence to that effect.
Because I found an off the shelf thumb throttle from a quad works it don't count as a special mod as it is a genuine spare part for a production vehicle, it's no different to someone fitting a quick action throttle instead of a standard one.

In your case explain that your medical situation has improved and you feel physically able to handle a solo, manual, motorcycle, get your GP to write a letter saying he agrees with you and see where that takes you with DVLA.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 16:22 pm 
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DVLA are hard work.

They gave me a bike licence without me taking a bike test - easy mistake!

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 00:11 am 
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dik wrote:
DVLA are hard work.

They gave me a bike licence without me taking a bike test - easy mistake!


You lucky, lucky thing you!
I was failed twice in 2 weeks by the same examiner cos he took a dislike to me!
Then the third time I had my test booked I got banned cos I was young and stoopid but there was a postal strike so my cancellation form was late so I lost my money.
The fourth time I paid for the test, the third time I took it, I was so nervous cos of previous experience I totally fucked it up, it was just as they introduced radio headsets where the tester followed you on a bike and gave instructions as you went only the early radio technology was crap so I could not hear what he was telling me to do.
I waited a year or so, moved to a different part of the country and passed straight away with no extra lessons.
My instructor when I first did the test, when I was 17, went to see the examiner to question why he failed me twice in two weeks he told him he didn't like me and would never pass me no matter how many times I put in for it!
So I did it twice at 17, once at 19 then passed when I was 20, I wouldn't give up.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:28 pm 
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Thanks AdeN. I was thinking along those lines anyway. I'd just read somewhere that you couldn't ride a manual bike if you only had a auto car licence. i think i may be getting myself mixed up with the trike laws though. :?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 18:18 pm 
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i think so as well dave - the trike licence (B1) is a subsection of the car licence (B).

a motorcycle licence is completely different.

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 Post subject: need help myself
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 21:55 pm 
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Been away for far to long due to left leg a/knee amputation looking to get a trike asap but dont want automatic want to use kliktronic. my licence is restricted to automatic only code 78 for cat B but i also have cat A code 44 motorcycles with adaptions so does this mean i'm ok ???

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will be very gratefull if some body can help

John


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 17:26 pm 
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hello and welcome legless.

as long as you stay under the weight restriction for a trike on an 'A' licence, yes.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 20:09 pm 
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thanks for that :D


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 21:09 pm 
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I can finally update you now on what's happened/ happening.

It took me a few months to get an appointment with the G.P. at my health centre who specialises in DVLA matters but eventually i got to see her.

She examined my leg then told me I would have to write to the DVLA telling them that I wanted the restrictions to my bike and car licence removing. They, (the DVLA), will then contact her asking for evidence to support my request. Once they're happy with that (been told it can take several weeks sometimes longer), they will send me a decleration to sign. I return that to them with my licence and they'll change all the details.

Just hoping now that they're not awkward buggers over it. Still grinning.

Hope this is of use to anyone else who needs it. Thanks again for all the advice previously too. :D


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 22:11 pm 
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HINT - take a photo copy of your licence before sending it off!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 07:52 am 
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Yes take copies of all sides of your licence, paper and card if you have the 2 part type.
DVLA have been known to lose licences and remove groups from licences with no explanation.
They have tried denying some people ever had a licence when they have been asked about their mistakes so be very careful.


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