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 Post subject: VAT
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 20:56 pm 
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Does anybody know if you can claim VAT on parts used in a conversion?


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 Post subject: Re: VAT
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 21:11 pm 
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No I don't believe you can.

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 Post subject: Re: VAT
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 07:31 am 
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It depends on the parts used and if it's to enable a disabled person to ride.

Have a look at this https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... 1___2_.pdf

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 Post subject: Re: VAT
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 07:46 am 
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Delboy wrote:
It depends on the parts used and if it's to enable a disabled person to ride.


Don't you have to be a wheelchair user for VAT of motor vehicles, parts and servicing? And the vehicle you are repairing has to be bought VAT free as well.

What are you converting / repairing?

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 Post subject: Re: VAT
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 19:29 pm 
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I don't see anything in that guidance regarding converting a bike for disabled use!
The parts needed would be cables, hoses and thumb brake,so you could not say they were disabled specific only that needed to make suitable adaptions.


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 Post subject: Re: VAT
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 06:09 am 
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Have a look at this document.

First question is, are you a wheelchair user?!

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 Post subject: Re: VAT
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 06:09 am 
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 Post subject: Re: VAT
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 06:12 am 
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 Post subject: Re: VAT
PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 20:24 pm 
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I'd guess the thumb brake would be discounted VAT? The Klever from kliktronic comes VAT free, I think that any parts not solely for diasabled use wont count so it would be a no for cables and hoses.
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 Post subject: Re: VAT
PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 15:12 pm 
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Any equipment purchased for the use of a disabled person and that use being specifically related to the need created by that disability is VAT exempt at the point of purchase if the disabled person buying it supplies a signed VAT exemption declaration. That form is then completed by the supplier and retained for their VAT accounts.

So ANY equipment, whether it be pipes, leads, hoses or a back scratcher, that is used FOR A DISABILITY is VAT exempt...

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 Post subject: Re: VAT
PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 18:02 pm 
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I don't think that, for instance, brake pipes could be said to be "specifically related to the need created by that disability" because you need brake pipes on any trike, likewise various other items.

I've found The Trike Shop http://www.trikeshop.co.uk/index.html very helpful with answering questions about trikes and legal stuff, even though I've never been a customer of theirs. You can email them at info@trikeshop.co.uk

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 Post subject: Re: VAT
PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 19:07 pm 
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If you need a thumb brake, for instance, fitted to your bike, how are you going to fit it without buying extra brake pipe? It's a requirement of the equipment, which is a requirement for the disability.

I've just had this argument with Quaiffe (the gearbox peeps). They reckoned that their service pack for the gearbox could not be purchased without VAT. However, because the quaiffe was fitted to the trike due to a disability, then all service items are also VAT free. As long as the customer completes the required form at point of sale...

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 Post subject: Re: VAT
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 06:52 am 
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I think you are right Vern.

If a vehicle needs servicing or repairs and it has been bought VAT free, then the work should be VAT free. It is with my VW van, I have never paid VAT for the work and repairs done on that.

If parts are needed due to a disability, then they can be bought VAT free - not sure about the fitting of them if the vehicle is not VAT free though.

Its a murky area for sure if you are not a wheelchair user!!

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 Post subject: Re: VAT
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 21:28 pm 
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Big_Vern wrote:
Any equipment purchased for the use of a disabled person and that use being specifically related to the need created by that disability is VAT exempt at the point of purchase if the disabled person buying it supplies a signed VAT exemption declaration. That form is then completed by the supplier and retained for their VAT accounts.

So ANY equipment, whether it be pipes, leads, hoses or a back scratcher, that is used FOR A DISABILITY is VAT exempt...

Vic


That's great,did try phoning HMRC but waited ages then got tgothrough to sombody and then promptly cut off.


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 Post subject: Re: VAT
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 06:20 am 
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It is a grey area I have bought batteries for my mobility scooter VAT free online but a local supplier charges VAT as the batteries are not specific to the scooter but can be used in other applications. They used to sell them free of VAT but showed me a letter from HMRC that specifically excludes equipment that can be used for purposes other than a disabled person.

When I had my bathroom converted I could claim the VAT on the labour but not on the shower itself as it wasn't specific for a disabled persons needs.

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